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PostSubject: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 2:58 pm

So with so many new faces eager to get into the Minor League experience, I got a question that I felt was difficult to answer and I know the feedback is going to vary so I thought I would put it here for all to see and respond to and our new owners can gather what they want from it.

Warning: The level of sarcasm and nonsense on this forum is thick so take everything with a grain of salt but I'm guessing our Main League owners will offer some decent insight into what's what...

How valuable are Warbucks in trades? How often do people use them?


My personal take before I let the hoard loose on ya...

We have seen a big, yet consistent difference from one conference to the other in the Main League. I suspect the Minor League will be something different yet. Some are cheap, some are loose, some value them highly while others would spend em on french fries given the option.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 3:08 pm

Just take a look at Eric's W-L and $ and you'll have your answer...

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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 3:30 pm

Philadelphia Pigskins wrote:
Just take a look at Eric's W-L and $ and you'll have your answer...

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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 3:38 pm

Warbucks are for making your team better. If you are not spending on what makes your team better, they are going to waste. Just my opinion...


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 3:55 pm

War Bucks don't score points.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 4:47 pm

So, and this is just from offers that I've received.

My 1.1 is worth 50 WBs.

My trade partners' 3rd round pick is worth 40 WBs.

But my late 6th is still worth 8 WBs!

On a serious note, I dug deep into this when I first started (as did Bern I believe). The answer is that there is no rational correlation between how different owners value WBs and not even a correlation between each owner on how they value WBs and then actually spend WBs.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 5:03 pm

I definitely need to dive further into this question also


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 5:17 pm

Peter Brand: "Billy, this is Chad Bradford. He's a relief pitcher. He is one of the most undervalued players in baseball. His defect is that he throws funny. Nobody in the big leagues cares about him, because he looks funny. This guy could be not just the best pitcher in our bullpen, but one of the most effective relief pitchers in all of baseball. This guy should cost $3 million a year. We can get him for 2 Warbucks."

On a serious note, thanks to the vets for giving us some insight into the workings of this asylum.



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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 5:50 pm

According to Bern, $25 WB's = 3 2nd round picks.



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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 6:15 pm

Rocky Mountain Oysters wrote:
According to Bern, $25 WB's = 3 2nd round picks.


and two are future picks at that. Hmmm. Interesting... thinking


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 6:39 pm

What you should derive from all this is that we all make it up as we go. A big pile like Eric has gives you strength at times but if you always wait for the perfect moment you might end up with a lot of loot and a shitty team.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 7:11 pm

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The answer is that there is no rational correlation between how different owners value WBs and not even a correlation between each owner on how they value WBs and then actually spend WBs.  



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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 7:13 pm

Guess my question wasn't too crazy.  Basically what I gathered from this is...



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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 7:53 pm

Do not get confused though, WBs are more valuable than standard blind bidding bucks. Just how much more is the question.



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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 8:02 pm

Norfolk Bombers wrote:
Do not get confused though, WBs are more valuable than standard blind bidding bucks.  Just how much more is the question.


Glad you mentioned that...I don't have other leagues any more to compare it to.

I would say a good piece of advice is to not lean too heavily in either direction with them to start until you feel you "get it". If you don't throw em all into the wind or keyster all of them in fear they'll be taken...you'll be just fine.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 9:53 pm

When you said keyster this was my first thought



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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 10:34 pm

Norfolk Bombers wrote:
Do not get confused though, WBs are more valuable than standard blind bidding bucks.  Just how much more is the question.


So he tells me not to be confused, but I am confused. We get 225 WBs annually and these are for 'blind bidding'. So what are standard blind bid bucks?


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Wed May 24, 2017 11:58 pm

Rocky Mountain Oysters wrote:
According to Bern, $25 WB's = 3 2nd round picks.


I'm glad you brought that up Ed.  It's time I give these new guys a lesson in Roster War Economics. laughing


War Bucks are not like dollars, they are more like gold.  And like gold, the value of the War Buck fluctuates.  And the value of the War Buck changes from Conference to Conference.  If there's a lot of WB's available, their value is watered down (See the TT Conference).  In the DD Conference, WB's are so scarce, they are reaching Platinum prices.  Then there's the matter of timing.  During RFA, this poor NightHawk was broke and desperately needed WB's to hang onto Alec Ogletree.  To do that, he traded away a bunch of risky draft picks for enough WB's to keep Ogletree.  I traded in my picks at the Pawn Shop for a few WB's.  And to me, they were worth their weight in Gold (Did you all notice the pun I used right there?  Impressive huh?).  

How can I call 2nd Round picks risky?  Because of their historical track record.  What history?  Why the history that Matt has so nicely laid out in a color diagram. 

In conclusion, remember that War Bucks are like Gold, and the market on the value of them can fluctuate like the high & low tides in the ocean.  Oh one last thing because TT keeps bringing up my $25 WB fire sale of 2nd Rounders.  Of course $25 WB's are a drop in the bucket to them as their market is flooded with them.  At that time, my $25 WB's had the same value as about $90 WB's in their market in correlation to how many WB's they had available to the DD Conference. 

You want another example?  Ok, twist my arm.  Take a look at the current Roster War Standings.   No, not the 0-0 records of every team and the fact that they're all tied for 1st place.  Look deeper than that.  The Nevada NightHawks currently have $25 WB's in their financial portfolio.  That has them currently ranked as the 3rd richest team in the DD Conference behind only the SilverBallers ($42) and the Mayhem ($33).  Now look in the TT Conference.  There are currently 7 teams with more than $100 WB's and 2 of them are over $300 WB's.  surprised  So of course when I pull into the Beverly Hills of Roster Wars, they are going to laugh me out of town with my $25 WB's.  But in the Projects of Roster Wars where the NightHawks of the DD resides,  I am strutting around the league in my Lonzo Ball ZO2 basketball shoes, and I still have money in the bank and Ogletree on my roster. tongue 

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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 6:07 am

Just to review: "WBs are used for blind bid waivers during the playing season, for the RFA bidding in the non-playing season and are required for buying out contract years at all times. "...and trading, and moving players up from the PS, which the ML is not going to have.

So it would seem that the availability of WBs, hence the value, will be different in the ML, without a PS?


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 7:44 am

I usually don't have a lot of of WBs to use during RFA or in season. I try to use almost all my allotment, and use every tag available. I think I do this because I really don't like to get into bidding wars for a player. Plus I would rather try and retain my good players as well

Now as for value of a WB...... I still don't have a clue????? I hardly ever trade WBs, so I have no idea what a player or pick is worth???? shrug



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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 8:30 am

Warbucks are more valuable than standard blind bidding dollars in other leagues because of restricted free agency and tags. I get $100 blind bid dollars in another league to use on waiver wire pickups throughout the year, but I don't have to worry about adding any players in the off season through restricted free agency or protecting any players with tags. As for their trade value, as others have mentioned it really depends. For that reason, I haven't ended up making any deals with any significant amount of WBs attached because I can't ever really wrap my head around if it is a deal that makes sense for my team.

When I was brand new (I still acctually haven't played a season yet), I got directed to History Hall a few times to see how much certain players were going for in RFA. This was pretty helpful in trying to assign some value to WBs, although as mentioned above getting a definitive value is damned near impossible.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 8:37 am

Look, the value of Warbucks are in the eyes of the beholder. End of story! If you think they are valuable to get a trade done, so be it. Just remember, your trading partner will not have the same idea. EVER!!!!!

As for how many people will use the taxi squad, I have no idea.

When I joined I was in the RWTC. It was a redraft league, run by Roster Wars. Just think about this...I played 1 year and got the call to the big leagues. You are going to be way ahead of the game with the new format (in the minor league), than I was (in the RWTC).


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 9:08 am

I spent a little time last night looking at past trades and RFA info and definitely need to save some to protect players. I like how the pool is all together, cool twist with one more thing to handle.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 9:22 am

I may have missed this in the grand scheme of things. And yes Andy, I have read the Bylaws nightly (hope I don't lose any points on the activity tracker for this question), but after less than a week here I am still feeling my way around, bumping into walls and falling down stairs. That being said, in the Main RW, there are two conferences, the DD and TT. Are teams allowed to trade players or warbucks only in conference or between conferences? The reason I ask was because of Bern's explanation on Warbucks and the difference of their value between leagues.

For future reference, as a former journalist, I do know how to spell and the difference between there, their and they're, but I type too fast at times and just don't pay attention. When you've always been use to typing on deadlines, you get the info down on paper and let the copy editor handle all that crap. So I apologize for future errors.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 9:26 am

As noted before, I spent several hours looking at this and trying to come up with a formula. But here are some big picture thoughts.

I can Super Franchise Tag a player for 100 WBs. So, in that regard, 100 WBs is worth a ton because I can keep a guy like Andrew Luck to myself and not worry about anyone else taking him. Similarly, 20 WBs can extend a guy's contract. So you could extend an older RB for one year. In most leagues, that player might command a late 1st. Dilute that for the larger rosters here and that older RB on a 1-year deal might be worth a late 2nd. So is 20 WBs worth a late 2nd?

Some people use the transition tag values for a rough gauge on value. I'd have to check the rules but 25 WBs allows you to protect a guy at a 2nd round value and 20 WBs allows you to protect them at a 3rd round value. So, if I tag a guy but get outbid, I get a 2nd round pick (usually late) for 25 WBs. Now I think that you need to increase the value a bit because it does give you some protection. So a random 2nd is probably worth 25-35 WBs. A random 3rd is probably worth 20-30 WBs.

There are plenty of examples of wasted WBs. I believe that DeAndre Smelter went for something like 20 WBs and that Roddy White went for about the same value.

Another gauge, one that I like to use, is restricted free agency. In other words, how many WBs would it cost to get a certain player. So, if a stud safety goes for 30 WBs and a stud safety could get traded for a 3rd or 4th, you would think that a 3rd or 4th is worth 30 WBs. I think that there are issues when you do a straight WBs to pick valuation using this method but you can. But it does help in certain respects. During the draft I was looking at a rookie safety in the 6th. I moved the pick for 8 WBs because I would have bid up to 7 WBs on that guy if he was in RFA.

So, in other words, no one knows what they are worth but I think that's because value placed on WBs varies from time to time. And from owner to owner and conference to conference.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 9:29 am

North Carolina Cobras wrote:
I may have missed this in the grand scheme of things. And yes Andy, I have read the Bylaws nightly (hope I don't lose any points on the activity tracker for this question), but after less than a week here I am still feeling my way around, bumping into walls and falling down stairs. That being said, in the Main RW, there are two conferences, the DD and TT. Are teams allowed to trade players or warbucks only in conference or between conferences? The reason I ask was because of Bern's explanation on Warbucks and the difference of their value between leagues.

For future reference, as a former journalist, I do know how to spell and the difference between there, their and they're, but I type too fast at times and just don't pay attention. When you've always been use to typing on deadlines, you get the info down on paper and let the copy editor handle all that crap. So I apologize for future errors.

NO TRADING  between conferences

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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 9:32 am

Kane County Goon Squad wrote:
North Carolina Cobras wrote:
I may have missed this in the grand scheme of things. And yes Andy, I have read the Bylaws nightly (hope I don't lose any points on the activity tracker for this question), but after less than a week here I am still feeling my way around, bumping into walls and falling down stairs. That being said, in the Main RW, there are two conferences, the DD and TT. Are teams allowed to trade players or warbucks only in conference or between conferences? The reason I ask was because of Bern's explanation on Warbucks and the difference of their value between leagues.

For future reference, as a former journalist, I do know how to spell and the difference between there, their and they're, but I type too fast at times and just don't pay attention. When you've always been use to typing on deadlines, you get the info down on paper and let the copy editor handle all that crap. So I apologize for future errors.

NO TRADING  between conferences

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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 9:37 am

North Carolina Cobras wrote:
Kane County Goon Squad wrote:
North Carolina Cobras wrote:
I may have missed this in the grand scheme of things. And yes Andy, I have read the Bylaws nightly (hope I don't lose any points on the activity tracker for this question), but after less than a week here I am still feeling my way around, bumping into walls and falling down stairs. That being said, in the Main RW, there are two conferences, the DD and TT. Are teams allowed to trade players or warbucks only in conference or between conferences? The reason I ask was because of Bern's explanation on Warbucks and the difference of their value between leagues.

For future reference, as a former journalist, I do know how to spell and the difference between there, their and they're, but I type too fast at times and just don't pay attention. When you've always been use to typing on deadlines, you get the info down on paper and let the copy editor handle all that crap. So I apologize for future errors.

NO TRADING  between conferences

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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 9:42 am

I spend every damn WB I can if I feel it makes my roster better and deeper. I spend WB's like Justin's mom likes her sex.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 10:37 am

Titletown Tyrants wrote:
I spend every damn WB I can if I feel it makes my roster better and deeper. I spend WB's like Justin's mom likes her sex.




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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 10:47 am

Bern thanks for the detailed explanation, that was helpful


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 10:47 am

Not knowing the calendar of activities that the Min. Lg, will be having, but given that we have 1000 for the inaugural draft, which should address the picking up of the majority of one's roster, the value of WBs it would seem would take on a whole new perspective...


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 10:50 am

In the end, this might all be academic. The 24 new owners will end up placing a value on a WB that is very different than the value in the TT or the DD. And it is very likely that the value will differ between the two divisions.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 11:41 am

Titletown Tyrants wrote:
I spend every damn WB I can if I feel it makes my roster better and deeper. I spend WB's like Justin's mom likes her sex.


She talked to Justin about the Birds and the Bees! And look at Justin now...never had a chance


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 11:59 am

I'm sure the value of Warbucks will differ from owner to owner, just like the value of draft picks and the value of a certain player. An owner may prefer to run their team through offseason acquisitions but another may stick to drafting and extending those players.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 12:21 pm

I've read the Bylaws, but have to say this thread has been very helpful and and interesting.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 12:26 pm

So again, let me make sure I am interpreting things correctly in the bylaws.
There are 2 divisions.
Each Division holds their own separate draft, free agency and trading. So I assume, Tom Brady can be owned in each division.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 12:31 pm

North Carolina Cobras wrote:
So again, let me make sure I am interpreting things correctly in the bylaws.
There are 2 divisions.
Each Division holds their own separate draft, free agency and trading. So I assume, Tom Brady can be owned in each division.

You are interpreting correctly. However, I would call the divisions conferences.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 12:32 pm

North Carolina Cobras wrote:
So again, let me make sure I am interpreting things correctly in the bylaws.
There are 2 divisions.
Each Division conference holds their own separate draft, free agency and trading. So I assume, Tom Brady can be owned in each division.
Conference

"The RWDOC operates with conferences of 12 teams each divided into three divisions of four teams. Each conference has it's own player pool and teams play exclusively against conference opponents during the regular season. "

Divisions are the smallest of the league organization...


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 12:38 pm

Thanks Ed.
Played in an NCAA Football league like that once. Lot of fun.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 12:52 pm

Looks like Russ already did the RWDOC sabermetrics for WB's I was planning to do.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 1:23 pm

Like most things in dynasty planning ahead with your WBs based future tags, RFA class etc pays off


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 1:50 pm

I really really appreciate those Main Leaguers who have shared some insight and didn't screw around to confuse these guys. I can't emphasize enough that most of us agree that none of us can say with any definity what they're worth. The two conferences we have had been wildly different and I'll bet the upcoming two conferences will be different still.

Stay loose, be ready to adjust on the fly and I know you'll all make it through all right. Won't take you long to be right where the rest of us are...just knowledgeable to talk like we know wtf we're doing. lol 2


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 2:00 pm

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Not knowing the calendar of activities that the Min. Lg, will be having, but given that we have 1000 for the inaugural draft, which should address the picking up of the majority of one's roster, the value of WBs it would seem would take on a whole new perspective...

This line from the Inaugural Draft section of the bylaws leads me to believe that the $1,000 budget we have for the draft is not in War Bucks, but rather what you might as well call Draft Dollars.

a) Each owner will have $1000 for the inaugural draft to use to win players in an auction format.  Leftover $$$ has no value.  This money is for this draft only.  This league does not use salaries so winning bids will not be considered a players salary.

My understanding is we get $1,000 in Draft Dollars to spend in the draft, and then we all get the same standard $225WB allotment to use from there. Carla or Andy or someone, correct me if I'm wrong.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 2:08 pm

Tenafly Vipers wrote:
MobTown Ravens wrote:
Not knowing the calendar of activities that the Min. Lg, will be having, but given that we have 1000 for the inaugural draft, which should address the picking up of the majority of one's roster, the value of WBs it would seem would take on a whole new perspective...

This line from the Inaugural Draft section of the bylaws leads me to believe that the $1,000 budget we have for the draft is not in War Bucks, but rather what you might as well call Draft Dollars.

a) Each owner will have $1000 for the inaugural draft to use to win players in an auction format.  Leftover $$$ has no value.  This money is for this draft only.  This league does not use salaries so winning bids will not be considered a players salary.

My understanding is we get $1,000 in Draft Dollars to spend in the draft, and then we all get the same standard $225WB allotment to use from there. Carla or Andy or someone, correct me if I'm wrong.

Correct.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 2:17 pm

Whiskey Creek Gadabouts wrote:
Tenafly Vipers wrote:
MobTown Ravens wrote:
Not knowing the calendar of activities that the Min. Lg, will be having, but given that we have 1000 for the inaugural draft, which should address the picking up of the majority of one's roster, the value of WBs it would seem would take on a whole new perspective...

This line from the Inaugural Draft section of the bylaws leads me to believe that the $1,000 budget we have for the draft is not in War Bucks, but rather what you might as well call Draft Dollars.

a) Each owner will have $1000 for the inaugural draft to use to win players in an auction format.  Leftover $$$ has no value.  This money is for this draft only.  This league does not use salaries so winning bids will not be considered a players salary.

My understanding is we get $1,000 in Draft Dollars to spend in the draft, and then we all get the same standard $225WB allotment to use from there. Carla or Andy or someone, correct me if I'm wrong.

Correct.

Double correct.


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 2:35 pm

Minnesota Eternals wrote:
Whiskey Creek Gadabouts wrote:
Tenafly Vipers wrote:
MobTown Ravens wrote:
Not knowing the calendar of activities that the Min. Lg, will be having, but given that we have 1000 for the inaugural draft, which should address the picking up of the majority of one's roster, the value of WBs it would seem would take on a whole new perspective...

This line from the Inaugural Draft section of the bylaws leads me to believe that the $1,000 budget we have for the draft is not in War Bucks, but rather what you might as well call Draft Dollars.

a) Each owner will have $1000 for the inaugural draft to use to win players in an auction format.  Leftover $$$ has no value.  This money is for this draft only.  This league does not use salaries so winning bids will not be considered a players salary.

My understanding is we get $1,000 in Draft Dollars to spend in the draft, and then we all get the same standard $225WB allotment to use from there. Carla or Andy or someone, correct me if I'm wrong.

Correct.

Double correct.

I have no legal authority here but:

Triple Correct  tongue


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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 2:40 pm



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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 2:43 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Warbucks: What is the truth?   Thu May 25, 2017 3:44 pm

Also, there will be a slight inflation of WBs going into the first offseason.  In year one everyone will be given 225 Wbs with no real offseason (read no RFA) to spend them.  Then to begin year 2 everyone will be given another 225 Wbs.  So this will be the point where there are the most WBs in play ever.  And players like R Sherman (yes a CB) will go for 100 WBs (Thanks Sty!).  After that first RFA player values in terms of WBs will normalize.  


Just food for thought.


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