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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:37 am

Decatur Freakshow wrote:
OK, so I apologize for my lack of participation. I can't say I didn't see it, I did. No excuses, berate me at will.

Han-Yang, this IS great work. To you, I deeply apologize, as, I know what effort goes in to these things. I really wish I could have done this one differently.

I don't accept your excuse shit lord. It was a two second thing. TWO SECONDS! I voted for all my own players. Fuck all you guys.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Thu Sep 17, 2015 1:47 pm

Wish I found this thread earlier.  Some great stuff.  Especially the Chapter 1 projections.  Still trying to figure out who the one owner was that picked Tarpon winning out over England ....  thinking


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:13 pm

Decatur Freakshow wrote:
OK, so I apologize for my lack of participation. I can't say I didn't see it, I did. No excuses, berate me at will.

Han-Yang, this IS great work. To you, I deeply apologize, as, I know what effort goes in to these things. I really wish I could have done this one differently.

To the 7 of you that voted me Pink. Kiss my big, fat, busy ass.

Sorry Bob. I was one of the 7. You can find all the other people who are down on your team by looking at the spreadsheet and clicking the "data" tab.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Thu Sep 17, 2015 2:59 pm

I admit I dropped the ball on this one. I'm usually good at participating in all the side games. I read it, had all my answers but just kept putting it off and it never got done. Procrastination fail!


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:05 pm

Felt like crunching the numbers to see where we stand on this after week 8.  Not going to detail all the data, but for league champ and pink I used record/points to project.

So, league champ = 1) Dragons 2) Pigskins
Pink = 1) Goon Squad 2) Screamers
Best draft = 1) Vag 697.54 points 2) Marauders 461.96 points

So, if the contest ended today...

1st - Nightmare 9.5 points (30 WB)

2nd - (3 way tie)
Minions 9 points (12 WB)
Divine 9 points (12 WB)
Dragons 9 points (12 WB)

5th - Beatniks 8.5 points (5 WB)
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Africans - 8 points
Bombers - 7.5 points
Goon Squad - 7.5 points
Silverballers - 7.5 points
Pigskins - 7 points
Eternals - 7 points
Nineties - 7 points
Vag - 6.5 points
Golddiggers - 6.5 points
Gadabouts - 5.5 points
Slings - 5.5 points
Marauders - 4.5 points
Redknights - 2.5 points


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:25 am

Nice work Corey - that must have taken some doing.

It's interesting looking back at the picks. Some terrible choices!

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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:54 am

I guess I could post the points for everyone that got picked to have the best draft since I wrote them down:

Vag - 697.54
Marauders - 461.96
Nightmare - 303.9
Freakshow - 247.6
RedKnights - 210.18
Dragons - 163.9




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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:16 am

Oh, and really nice picking on top scoring rookies by Nightmare. Got half a point for Amari Cooper and a full point for Marcus Peters. He was the only one to pick Peters. Lots of picks for Stephone Anthony who could still overtake Peters as he's only 13 points back right now.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:16 am

Thanks for investigating. I must admit I have no memory of who I picked or what the questions were laughing


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:27 am

Atlanta Africans wrote:
Thanks for investigating. I must admit I have no memory of who I picked or what the questions were laughing

You appeared to have skipped 3 questions which may be keeping you out of the money at the moment. You didn't make a pink pick, top PK pick, or top CB pick.

Like you, most people racked up their points with correct or runner up picks on division leaders. (Justin being 3rd currently screwed almost everyone) At the moment, lots of misses on the top position player picks. Most got Gronk and JJ Watt. Several hits on Gostkowski but it's a slaughterhouse after that.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:09 am

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Atlanta Africans wrote:
Thanks for investigating. I must admit I have no memory of who I picked or what the questions were laughing

You appeared to have skipped 3 questions which may be keeping you out of the money at the moment.  You didn't make a pink pick, top PK pick, or top CB pick.  

Like you, most people racked up their points with correct or runner up picks on division leaders. (Justin being 3rd currently screwed almost everyone)  At the moment, lots of misses on the top position player picks.  Most got Gronk and JJ Watt.  Several hits on Gostkowski but it's a slaughterhouse after that.    

wow if that's true it's almost certainly an error
Everybody knows Goonies for pink
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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Tue Nov 10, 2015 1:18 pm

Thanks for doing the update... I am a slacker and haven't had nearly enough time.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:07 pm

Atlanta Africans wrote:
Baja Beatniks wrote:
Atlanta Africans wrote:
Thanks for investigating. I must admit I have no memory of who I picked or what the questions were laughing

You appeared to have skipped 3 questions which may be keeping you out of the money at the moment.  You didn't make a pink pick, top PK pick, or top CB pick.  

Like you, most people racked up their points with correct or runner up picks on division leaders. (Justin being 3rd currently screwed almost everyone)  At the moment, lots of misses on the top position player picks.  Most got Gronk and JJ Watt.  Several hits on Gostkowski but it's a slaughterhouse after that.    

wow if that's true it's almost certainly an error
Everybody knows Goonies for pink
shrug

not sure how I missed this one but here you go



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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:35 pm

Great follow up man... Wish my answers were doing as well as my Draft Class! lol


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:40 pm

Current standings. Only question outstanding is league champion and runner up.
10.5 Naperville Divine
10 California Nightmare
9.5 England Dragons
9 Philadelphia Pigskins
8.5 Kane County Goon Squad
8.5 Baja Beatniks
8 Morrison Minions
8 New England Nineties
8 The Vag of Degeneres
8 Atlanta Africans
8 San Francisco Golddiggers
7.5 Minnesota Eternals
7 Norfolk Bombers
7 Littleton Silverballers
5.5 Sanibel Gadabouts
4.5 Singapore Slings
3.5 Tarpon Springs Redknights
3 Mohawk Ridge Marauders


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:41 pm

Rookie draft points. Note that drafted non-rookies don't count.

Las Vegas Degenerates 1072.84
Naperville Divine 767.44
Littleton Silverballers 743.3
Kingdom City Growlers 710.34
Mohawk Ridge Marauders 532.86
California Nightmare 467.64
San Francisco Golddiggers 461.44
Decatur Freakshow 430.7
Kane County Goon Squad 407.56
Hamilton Steel Cats 404.36
Norfolk Bombers 395.52
Sanibel Gadabouts 390.5
Tarpon Springs Redknights 384.96
Muskego Muskies 384.14
Morrison Minions 369.02
Devils Tower Outlaws 328.8
England Dragons 239.7
Atlanta Africans 232.5
Cybertron Screamers 224.16
Baja Beatniks 215.6
Singapore Slings 208.62
Minnesota Eternals 108.7
New England Nineties 72.2
Philadelphia Pigskins 0


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:11 pm

Thanks for the update, Han-Yang.

This was fun - should do it every year for sure.

cheers


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:53 pm

Zero rookie points...

I rule


Thanks for the update Han-Yang. Really enjoyed this and hope we do it again!



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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:41 pm

Wow Las Vegas had some serious points! Thanks Han Yang.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:27 pm

I also had a ton of rookies lol


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:32 pm

Thanks for doing this. 1 pt separates a lot of people at the top. It would be nice to win some more WBs.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:49 am

Yeah. I was hoping for more separation but it is what it is. Will need to see if I can dream up some different questions next year.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:22 am

Voting for all of my players panned out in spades!


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:30 am

Are we just waiting for the league champion to be crowned to determine the final standings on the survey game?


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:20 pm

Yes. Just league champion.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:39 am

Any updates ?


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:22 am

Naperville Divine wrote:
Any updates ?

Yes


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:40 pm

Final Standings. Congrats to Divine, the master of side games! I think you got WBs from every game...

10.5 Naperville Divine
10 California Nightmare
9.5 Baja Beatniks
9.5 England Dragons
9 Philadelphia Pigskins
9 New England Nineties
9 The Vag of Degeneres
9 Atlanta Africans
8.5 Kane County Goon Squad
8.5 San Francisco Golddiggers
8 Morrison Minions
8 Norfolk Bombers
8 Littleton Silverballers
7.5 Minnesota Eternals
5.5 Sanibel Gadabouts
5 Singapore Slings
3.5 Tarpon Springs Redknights
3 Mohawk Ridge Marauders


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:41 pm

WB payouts.

Naperville Divine 30
California Nightmare 20
Baja Beatniks 7
England Dragons 7
Philadelphia Pigskins 1
New England Nineties 1
The Vag of Degeneres 1
Atlanta Africans 1


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:44 pm

Thanks Han-Yang - enjoyed this one!

cheers


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:00 pm

Cool! Thanks for crunching all those final numbers.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:13 pm

That was fun contest. Love those WBs. Anybody want to sell some players for WBs. I am looking for a good player with expiring contract.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:05 pm

Naperville Divine wrote:
That was fun contest. Love those WBs. Anybody want to sell some players for WBs. I am looking for a good player with expiring contract.

I'm planning on giving Lavante my FT. If you can top that, we could talk. money eyes


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:07 am

The 2015 Survey Game has been paid out. Super special thanks to Han-Yang for coming up with it and orchestrating it from top to bottom.

What sort of feedback do people have now that it's played out fully?


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:16 am

I loved it, but I found it a little bit confusing to track. I had lost track of it throughout the year.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:26 am

The player picks are too hard. Maybe switch it to the best 2 picks at each position instead of 1st overall or whatever it was.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:28 am

Naperville Divine wrote:
I loved it, but I found it a little bit confusing to track.  I had lost track of it throughout the year.
Ya same, no real idea what it was about tbh (I am sure if I scrolled to page 1 I would figure it out though).


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:48 am

I'll be honest. I sucked hardcore at the side games. I tried the best I can to get the most war bucks that I could, but ended up empty handed. Now I feel that I am at a disadvantage at building my fantasy team now that my competition has built a hefty war bucks pot. I'm not sure I'm a big fan of the side games affecting our fantasy success to this degree. If I'm alone feeling this way, than it is what it is and I'll do the best that I can. I just thought I would mention it to see if anyone feels the same way. I could see some war bucks being awarded, but I think we are at a point where some teams are getting an entire year's worth of an advantage.

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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:01 pm

It isn't like the award per contest is enough to swing a team In any direction. The most you can win from any contest is 50 WBs and there are lots of WBs for multiple places. I love the side games. It makes the league really exciting and it gives shitty teams like mine the chance to turnaround much quicker.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:08 pm

Naperville Divine wrote:
It isn't like the award per contest is enough to swing a team In any direction. The most you can win from any contest is 50 WBs and there are lots of WBs for multiple places.  I love the side games.  It makes the league really exciting and it gives shitty teams like mine the chance to turnaround much quicker.

I bet you do like it ya prick laughing

What I'm saying isn't about you Craig, winning 9,000 war bucks. It's really everyone. What do we have, 3 games with 8 payouts? 24 payouts? Coming up empty handed means that you're pretty much at a disadvantage to almost everyone.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:21 pm

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Naperville Divine wrote:
It isn't like the award per contest is enough to swing a team In any direction. The most you can win from any contest is 50 WBs and there are lots of WBs for multiple places.  I love the side games.  It makes the league really exciting and it gives shitty teams like mine the chance to turnaround much quicker.

I bet you do like it ya prick laughing

What I'm saying isn't about you Craig, winning 9,000 war bucks. It's really everyone. What do we have, 3 games with 8 payouts? 24 payouts? Coming up empty handed means that you're pretty much at a disadvantage to almost everyone.

I know you're not trying to sound like this but it almost sounds like sour grapes.

I mean, are you proposing that we have no side games so that we have no side game payouts? Are you proposing that we make the payouts even smaller so people (like Mike) can further beat the drum of "I don't give a fuck"?

I understand that if we had 30 different side games with payouts that it would be hard to expect everyone to have time for that shit and that hypothetically someone could CRUSH it there which would be wildly advantageous in our game...but we have a couple games, everyone is eligible and everyone has the same chance to win and honestly we just saw the best case scenario for a single franchise in the Divine this year (Congrats btw) and even then, what he earned hardly seems like something I would give a shit about if I were in the same conference. He earns em there or he earns em by owning the right players or whatever like some of the other payouts...what's the difference?

I think you are of the mindset that our game is everything and fuck the rest (to some degree) just like you are much more interested in discussions about our league or fantasy football in general whereas some folks love to talk non-football shit. I file it under "make what you want of it"....I suck shit at the confidence pool which is evident every damn year as I only do better than the teams that actually can't bother to enter every week...but maybe one year I will get lucky.

I am not telling you what to think one bit...an opinion is good. Lately, I have been very much about the "If you have a complaint, it is much more palatable if it's accompanied by an idea on how to improve."

You don't like the side games. Got it. I don't know your idea though.....is it no games? That doesn't sound BETTER....to me at least.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:10 pm

I think I'm pretty much at the point where every opinion I have is going to sound like an ass wipe. So feel free to wipe with it. I'm still going to share my opinion until I'm told to leave.

I like the side games. They're cool. I think there is way too much compensation right now. I'll go add up all the war bucks handed out from the 3 side games and report back.

I don't care if it stays the same. I don't care if it is reduced. I don't care if it is raised.

All of this is just an opinion. And I'm starting to feel pretty fuckin foolish for owning opinions.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:28 pm

Actually I like owners who voice their opinions. It leads to good discussion. It make the forum more interesting.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:33 pm

460 war bucks available in the 3 side games. Hate me for not liking that.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:37 pm

I thought the survey was pretty fun... although I had forgotten my answers to the questions after week 2 lol


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:37 pm

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460 war bucks available in the 3 side games. Hate me for not liking that.

Wha'ts the max that one team could win though?


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:39 pm

We have to have side games - I don't think anyone is disputing that.

If WB's are considered too large a reward in terms of affecting the balance of the league itself, we could always make the reward $ (by reducing the league payouts perhaps) rather than WB's.

Just a suggestion.



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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:42 pm

No issues with the WBs that were paid out for the three side games... Yea 460 sounds like a lot in a lump sum... But I think it's fitting rewards for those that choose to participate in the extra stuff.

Say you finished first in ALL THREE side games... 36 for Survivor... 50 for Confidence... 30 for Survey... Everyone gets 200 each season. So being able, at best case, to get 116 more doesn't seem like a ton to me. Maybe I'm crazy. Maybe the Confidence pool should be lowered to that 30-36 range for first.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:55 pm

36 for survivor was because of a 4 way tie. It's 50/50/30. 130 max for one team. Or an average of 19 bucks per team.


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PostSubject: Re: Roster Wars Survey Game 2015   Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:15 pm

Morrison Minions wrote:
I think I'm pretty much at the point where every opinion I have is going to sound like an ass wipe. So feel free to wipe with it. I'm still going to share my opinion until I'm told to leave.


This made me lol 2

I am not trying to shut you up. Just want to make sure you evaluate how much of this is a personal take on a fringe aspect. I know not everyone is gonna like everything.

130 is the best an owner could do today as pointed out...the odds someone does that is not great if you ask me, especially if everyone is participating....

...so for me it's still of minimal impact while still mattering.


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