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PostSubject: Marvin Harrison WR IND RET   Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:20 pm

OK, this is wrong.

While I am a homer, I just do not get this one.

How does Tim Brown get in ahead of Marvin? Someone really needs to explain this to me. Here are Marvin's records and accomplishments:

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   Averaged 84.77 receptions per season, which is second to the all time record held by Sterling Sharpe who averaged 85 receptions per season. He had previously been averaging 93 per season until 2007, where he missed the majority of games with a knee injury, resulting in a 20 reception season.

   4th most touchdown receptions in a decade (95) 2000–2009

   3rd most receiving yards per game throughout a career (76.7 yds/game)

   2nd most receiving yards in a decade (10,439) 2000–2009

   Holds the NFL record for receptions in a single season with 143, set in 2002.

   Most receptions in a 2 season period (252), 2001–2002; 3 season period (354), 2000–2002; 4 season period (469), 1999–2002; 5 season period (563), 1999–2003; 6 season period (649)[2nd most – surpassed by Wes Welker 2007–2012 seasons, per HMS radio-show], 1999–2004; 7 season period (731), 1999–2005; 8 season period (826), 1999–2006; 9 season period (885), 1998–2006; 10 season period (958), 1997–2006; 11 season period (1,022), 1996–2006.

   Most receiving yards in a 4 season period (6,322), 1999–2002; 5 season period (7,594), 1999–2003.

   Most games in a career with at least 8 receptions (51), 9 receptions (32), 11 receptions (12), 12 receptions (8)

   Most consecutive games with at least 6 receptions (16) and 9 receptions (6)

   Most consecutive seasons with at least 5 touchdowns (11) – shared with Jerry Rice, Don Hutson, Cris Carter, Tim Brown, Terrell Owens

   Most consecutive seasons with at least 6 touchdowns (11) – shared with Terrell Owens, Jerry Rice, Don Hutson

   Most consecutive seasons with at least 5 touchdown receptions (11) – shared with Jerry Rice, Don Hutson, Cris Carter, Tim Brown, Terrell Owens

   Most consecutive seasons with at least 6 touchdown receptions (11) – shared with Jerry Rice, Don Hutson

   Most consecutive seasons with at least 10 touchdown receptions (8)

   Most consecutive seasons with at least 11 touchdown receptions (4)-tied with Lance Alworth, Art Powell

   Most consecutive seasons with at least 14 touchdown receptions (2)-tied with Jerry Rice

   Consecutive seasons with 1,400+ receiving yards (4); 1999–2002

   Consecutive seasons with 100+ receptions (4); 1999–2002

   Consecutive seasons with 82+ receptions (8); 1999–2006.

   Most games in a single season (2002) with at least 6 receptions (15), 7 receptions (12), 8 receptions (12), 9 receptions (10), 11 receptions (5).

   Most games in a season with at least 13 receptions (2) in 1999 – tied with several players

   3rd most games in a single season with 10+ receptions (6). Wes Welker and Andre Johnson have 7.

   Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning currently hold the record for most completions between a Wide Receiver and Quarterback with 953.

   Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning currently hold the NFL record for passing touchdowns between a WR and QB with 112.

   Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning currently hold the NFL record for passing yards between a WR and QB with 12,756.

   Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning currently hold the NFL record for completions in a season between a WR and QB with 143, 2002

   Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning held the NFL record for passing yards in a season between a WR and QB with 1,722, 2002 – broken by Calvin Johnson and Matthew Stafford in 2012

   Harrison trails only Jerry Rice in 1,500 or more receiving yard seasons. He has 3 such seasons, Jerry Rice had 4.

   First player to record 2 seasons of 1,600 yards receiving in NFL history, (1999 & 2002).(Torry Holt became the 2nd, (2000 & 2003)

   First player to have 50+ receptions in his first 11 seasons in NFL history.(Torry Holt became the 2nd on December 27, 2009)

   With 59 career 100-yard receiving games, Marvin Harrison ranks No. 3 all time behind Jerry Rice (76) and Randy Moss (64).

   Second-fastest player to achieve 100 receiving touchdowns.

   Consecutive seasons of 1,000+ all-purpose yards and 10+ touchdown receptions (8), 1999–2006.

   On December 18, 2006, Marvin Harrison and Indianapolis Colt teammate Reggie Wayne became the only NFL wide receiver tandem to catch 75 receptions and 1,000 yards in 3 straight seasons. The game was on Monday Night and was played against the Cincinnati Bengals.

   On November 17, 2002, made his 600th career reception against the Dallas Cowboys.

   On October 12, 2003, made his 700th career reception against the Carolina Panthers. And is the fastest player to do so reaching the mark in 114 games.

   On November 8, 2004, made his 800th career reception against the Minnesota Vikings. And is the fastest player to do so reaching the mark in 131 games.

   On November 20, 2005, made his 900th career reception against the Cincinnati Bengals. And is the fastest player to do so reaching the mark in 149 career games.

   On December 10, 2006, made his 1000th reception against the Jacksonville Jaguars. And is the fastest player to do so reaching the mark in just 167 career games.

   On December 28, 2008, made his 1,100th career reception against the Tennessee Titans in his last regular season game and his last game in Indianapolis. He is the fastest player to do so reaching the mark in just 190 career games. Half way through the second quarter, he moved into second place for most receptions all time with 1,102, trailing only Jerry Rice.

   Most receptions over 1st 7 seasons (665), 8 seasons (759), 9 seasons (845), 10 seasons (927), 11 seasons (1,022) and 13 seasons (1,102) seasons of career of any NFL receiver

   Most consecutive games with a reception to start a career (190)

   Most average receptions per game in a career (5.8) – 1996–2008

   Most consecutive games with 8+ receiving yards (190), (206 if counting playoffs) – every game

   Most consecutive games with a 6+ yard reception (190), (206 if counting playoffs) – every game

   Most consecutive games with an 8+ yard reception (177), (192 if counting playoffs)

   Marvin Harrison is in third place for the most consecutive games with a reception with 190 (206 counting playoffs), only behind Jerry Rice who had 274 and Tony Gonzalez who has 196 as of the end of the 2012 season.


Right, he does not EVER deserve to be in the HOF. He not only holds the top position in some areas, he's in the top 5 all time in most.

What a fucking joke.




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PostSubject: Re: Marvin Harrison WR IND RET   Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:05 pm

Haters gonna hate hate hate hate....

Head to head advantage Brown:
NFL seasons 17
Career receiving yards 14934
1000 yard seasons 9
Career all purpose yards 19679
Pro Bowl 9

Harrison had Peyton his whole career, I will not elaborate further.

Marvin will get in. This was not Browns first year on ballot.

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PostSubject: Re: Marvin Harrison WR IND RET   Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:16 pm

To clarify the haters reference, the song happened to be on when I read your post. Shake it off shake it off oh O oh.... with 3 girls in the house this tends to happen.


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PostSubject: Re: Marvin Harrison WR IND RET   Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:24 pm

NorCal Knightmares wrote:
Harrison had Peyton his whole career, I will not elaborate further.

Ahhhh. OK, now I understand.

It matters whom your QB was to get in.

Makes all the sense in the world.

Say what you want, it took Brown 4 more seasons to put up comparable WR numbers to Marvin. Marvin STILL had more catches.

You can spin it all you want, Brown was not as good a WR as Marvin was.

Here are Browns accomplishments:

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First wide receiver to win the Heisman Trophy.

NFL rookie-season record for most combined yards gained, with 2,317 (1988).

NFL record 10 consecutive seasons with at least 75 receptions

NFL record for consecutive seasons with at least 5 touchdowns scored (11) - shared with Marvin Harrison, Don Hutson, Cris Carter,
Terrell Owens, & Jerry Rice

NFL record for being the oldest player ever to score a touchdown on special teams - (35 years, 140 days) 85-yard punt return

NFL record for most consecutive games with more than one reception (147 games, 1993–2002)

NFL record for being the oldest player with 12+ receptions in a single game - (36 years, 97 days): 10/27/02 @ KC Chiefs, 13 receptions, 144 receiving yards

NFL record for consecutive starts by a wide receiver: 176

Only player to have 1,600 receiving yards against four different teams (Broncos, Chiefs, Chargers, Seahawks)


Yup, that list is JUST as impressive as Marvin's.


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PostSubject: Re: Marvin Harrison WR IND RET   Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:39 pm

You mentioned what would Calvin Johnson have done numbers wise with Luck/Peyton/Brady/Rodgers instead of Stafford does support the notion that QB does matter.

Tim Brown did it with Jeff Hostetler the only QB worth mentioning until Gannon showed up late in his career.

Give me Brown over Harrison any day. Good luck to you next year Marvin.


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PostSubject: Re: Marvin Harrison WR IND RET   Sun Feb 01, 2015 4:41 pm

And you should update your list of Browns accomplishments to include "Hall of Fame"



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PostSubject: Re: Marvin Harrison WR IND RET   Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:10 pm

NorCal Knightmares wrote:
You mentioned what would Calvin Johnson have done numbers wise with Luck/Peyton/Brady/Rodgers instead of Stafford does support the notion that QB does matter.

Tim Brown did it with Jeff Hostetler the only QB worth mentioning until Gannon showed up late in his career.

Give me Brown over Harrison any day. Good luck to you next year Marvin.

Nice misuse of a quote! Whom your QB is shouldn't have ANYTHING to do with the HOF, that was just pointing out how much that Stafford sucks.

Calvin gets in his 1st year DESPITE having Stafford.

Really, just re-look at the list. Marvin's numbers, in 4 less seasons, are just flat better than Browns. Oh and, BTW, I'm a huge Domer, you just haven't been here long enough to know that. I watched Brown every game he played in College. You take Brown, give me Marvin.

Plus, from 2001 to 2008, Marvin had to compete with Reggie for all of Peyton's throws.

Brown had no real competition at WR for the Raiders until Rice showed up. Harrison did. From 2004 through 2008, Reggie had over 1,000 yards every year. Ethan Horton and Willie Gault were never great WR's, they never came near 1,000 yards. When Rice came to Oakland, he passed right by Brown as the teams #1 WR. In only one year did Reggie pass Marvin in yardage until his last season. Let's face it, Reggie will make the HOF too.

Marvin was, by far, a better WR than Brown could ever be.


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PostSubject: Re: Marvin Harrison WR IND RET   Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:16 pm

Oh and, This was Marvin's 2nd year on the ballot, as a finalist.

Part of the HOF is just politics.

I could easily make an argument for Orlando Pace too. He has been shafted, or fucked to say it how it really is, also.


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PostSubject: Re: Marvin Harrison WR IND RET   Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:45 pm

I dont have a problem with Harrison getting in.


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PostSubject: Re: Marvin Harrison WR IND RET   Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:46 pm

Hey Bob it is not my intention to misuse anyone's quotes.

Marvin is very deserving of the Hall. If they chose not to elect Bill Polian and Ron Wolf they would have the room for players that may be more deserving. The politics are very frustrating. You are so right with Pace. We will just have to agree to disagree on who was the better receiver.

By the way, the Catholics vs Criminals rivalry was a great time in my wonder year's. I of course was on the side of the green and orange. Not my favorite as I don't claim a favorite team on the college level but I always have been on the side of the less popular.


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PostSubject: Re: Marvin Harrison WR IND RET   Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:53 pm

I hadn't heard the HOF stuff... when I saw this thread .. the first thing I thought of was that he was finally charged with murder or attempted murder or whatever his inner city Philly issues were in the past.

But on this thread topic.. He'll get in... Just not a first ballot. I think he probably should be first ballot though.


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PostSubject: Re: Marvin Harrison WR IND RET   Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:57 pm

Sanibel Gadabouts wrote:
I hadn't heard the HOF stuff... when I saw this thread .. the first thing I thought of was that he was finally charged with murder or attempted murder or whatever his inner city Philly issues were in the past.  

Laughing I thought the same thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Marvin Harrison WR IND RET   Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:04 pm

Marvin was soooo smooth and he will get in sooner than later. The NFL will have to start letting a WR in each year to catch up for all the years they purposely held them out. It is just a different game now



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PostSubject: Re: Marvin Harrison WR IND RET   Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:07 pm

Remember when Harrison was involved in that shooting in Philly a few years back?

Im still confused how that got brushed under the rug rather quickly


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